Big reveals await you in RWBY Volume 5 Chapter 11-12 and it’s time to get ready for the build-up battle between Raven vs Cinder. What are your guys’ thoughts on these chapters?
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I think people didnt like this season because we had that week between episodes. It gave people time to theory craft and think “is this how its gonna happen?” Then when they turn out wrong, or right, they find it less impactful or even pandering somehow (because I dont think people understand that a series like this is finished well before the first episode is released, so when someone’s prediction comes true it’s clearly pandering *eye roll*)
Raven wasn’t a maiden when she had Yang. Also im pretty sure maiden powers dont get transferred in any sort of way to a maidens child, unless the mom dies and her child is a young woman.
Hey Kat, I think RT edited what RWBY said near the end of the episode; when it first released I remember Ruby not saying she was angry but that she was P.O. ed.
Weiss…is best girl. -how Kat opens the video. Me- Uh-oh.
I agree that these episodes aren’t really as bad as everyone makes them out to be – certain things about the fighting and such are pretty unpolished but there’s a lot to like here! One of my favorite things about this set of episodes is how they establish the quality of Raven’s planning. If you rewatch her scenes in this volume, you can see her putting on her mask strategically to hide the eye-glow that happens when she uses her maiden powers, while Vernal takes the attention while acting like a maiden. It’s really awesome in hindsight. Personally, I don’t think Raven ever really wanted Qrow dead. She needed a believable excuse to get Qrow and the students there at the same time so that Cinder would have a harder time stealing the relic, and she knew Cinder’s the kind of person who would accept petty vengeance as a motivator without much thought. Raven seems to care more about people, especially family, than she lets on (as you probably know, since you’ve seen the end of the volume), but she fights that impulse for some reason that I really hope to find out more of in the future. Anyway, I think she’s a really compelling character and one of my favorite antagonists in RWBY for sure. Also, these episodes really rip my heart out with Jaune feels. Poor Jaune. Miles absolutely killed the voice work here. Sorry to leave an essay in the comments, I just jump at any excuse to analyze things to death, haha. Love your reactions, can’t wait for you to see Volume 6!
“She needed a believable excuse to get Qrow and the students there at the same time so that Cinder would have a harder time stealing the relic.”
Strongly agree! I don’t think I realized that the first time I watched V5 (I’ve seen several reactions since) but there’s no way Raven honestly thought Qrow would attack her for having the relic. He already knew she had the Spring Maiden with her and all he ever tried to do was convince her to join him. Also, if she actually just wanted him dead, she would have insisted he be killed before they try to take the relic not at the same time.
Kat’s intro: Weiss if you get hurt in this volume I will be quite upset! Me: Oh boy. Strap yourselves in people.
I really liked also how Weiss was hit, not that she was hit just how. Weiss is based on Snow White who famously ate a poisoned apple; poison is dealt with by the liver; the position the lance hit Weiss looks to be about where the liver is.
I enjoy these episodes because of how hard they are on the emotions. I really like Jaune and can relate to him as I’ve said before and seeing him hurting so much and Cinder basically torturing him psychologically while physically beating him makes me feel really bad for him. You can just see and hear his emotions just overwhelming him.
summer is not the summer maiden because she is dead
Why, you ask, did Cinder go after Weiss here? Just to hurt Jaune. She’s like that.
I’ve been waiting for you to react to episode 12! One of the best reveals in the series… also one of the worst cliffhangers when watching it as it was airing. Can’t wait to see your reactions for the last 2 episodes 🙂
Jaune’s Semblance is not Healing, but his Semblance can be used to Heal, won’t say more because it is still kind of Spoiler-ish, but you will see more over the next few chapters.
Raven was not the Spring Maiden while she was conceiving Yang because Lionheart (Leo) said that the Spring Maiden was a young girl who disappeared 10 years ago. Since Yang is 17 to 18 years old, that would mean that Raven got the Spring Maiden powers when Yang was about 7 to 8 years old.
Also Ruby is not a Maiden, she is a Silver Eye warrior like her mom Summer which is an entirely different thing. Just pointing that out for yo, no harsh feelings.
Loved this. thx
Raven being the spring maiden has nothing to do with Yang (Unless Yang becomes the spring maiden, but that’s a theory for another time). Plus, Raven probably got her powers around ten years ago, when the previous spring maiden went missing, Yang would have already been eight around that time. Love your reactions so much, and so excited for you to get through volume five and start on volume six!
Cinder is a manipulative, sadistic, smug snake of a b&^%$. That’s just the way she is. She went after Weiss because she likely remembered one of Jaune’s many overtures toward her in V3. Now, some people will say that Cinder duplicated Pyrrha’s spear just to be that much more of a sadist. I believe this is wrong, although if we assume this was Cinder’s intent, it becomes even more insulting to Pyrrha since this means that Cinder does not remember her fully. The main reason to say this is that Cinder does not usually use a spear. She’s mostly a swords and bow person. So Cinder is insulting Pyrrha twice here if this is her intent.
Jaune’s Semblance was first alluded to in ‘Grimm Eclipse.’ Which we should definitely play more of.
It was stated in ‘World of Remnant: Dust’ that one possible use for Dust is to infuse it directly into the body. It’s also the most hazardous method, but Hazel does this. He otherwise fights completely unarmed, and yet Cinder basically told Qrow that Hazel and Tyrion basically beat all of Mistral’s Hunstmen armed exactly this way. It was also implied through Hazel’s “we’ve dealt with her kind before” statement that they’re responsible for the deaths of Silver-Eyed Warriors. Like Summer Rose, perhaps?
Like Qrow said in the Volume 3 finale, Summer was a Silver-Eyed Warrior, a trait that Ruby inherited from her. So names are not indicative of special powers. To illustrate further, the previous Fall Maiden was Amber, and as this episode reveals, the current Spring Maiden is Raven. Remember how the power is passed, not by blood, but to whomever is within the bearer’s last thoughts, or a random maiden, because she has to be young enough to qualify. And if Raven was the Spring Maiden when she was with Tai, Ozpin would have been watching her much more closely. And judging by the way he was talking, Qrow still doesn’t know his own twin sister is Spring.
The pacing of this fight is one of the things fans criticize about this volume, with so much time where characters are standing around, talking, and their opponents are not taking advantage of these openings. Sometimes you CAN see someone fighting in the background like you could see happening in Volume 2, but most of the time characters are just standing there. It is problematic.
Anyway, one more chapter to go before the Volume 5 finale. Then you can move on to Volume 6, which I think is much better. Part of this is that Ezra Cooperstein was helping with direction. Unfortunately he has since left RT.
I love your reactions and can’t wait until you get to volume 7.
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